As I just updated Helene’s book, I felt it was time to reshare my interviews with her. I wasn’t the best interviewer, but her messages and wisdom are so important they are still worth listening to.

This podcast was originally recorded as an episode of With The Contest Queen on BlogTalkRadio on Friday, October 9th, 2009.

I was lucky enough to spend four days with her at the end of 2008, two years before she passed away. You can read about my adventures with her in the updated edition of her book Contesting: The Name It & Claim It Game.